Additionally, we talk about what Brian has learned about life and business from his mom Brenda Barnes, Former CEO of Pepsi and Sara Lee, what the most effective marketing channels have been, how M1 Finance’s message has evolved over time, how to communicate a relatively complicated product to consumers quickly, the importance of design in fintech, why Brian moved back to Chicago after going to Stanford and whether he thinks it matters, and why Chicago has to improve our risk appetite. LISTEN ON GOOGLE PLAY

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